DHofH, i'm with you all the way mate. Those inane Sammy Turd jokes. Gawd!
Slidin Fast
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The long weekend of B.S begins - UK.
by quellycatface inisn't going to be wonderful??.
not being there..
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Ferguson Shooting (Is my thinking on this all wrong.......)
by out4good3 ini think everyone here can agree that walking down the street, even in the middle of the street, is not cause for having a clip emptied in your ass......... i can understand how the black community would be outraged by the injustice of seeing another black man dead in the street at the hands of the police under mysterious circumstances....... i hope that i'm not succumbing to the attempts to assinate the already well impuned character of the dead man...... however.
i can't help but think that this could all have been avoided by exercising the proper discretion with fore-knowledge of the disadvantages people of color have when they are dealing with law enforcement in the united states.
it is not as if this disadvantage has only since recently came to light.
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I'm afraid that walking down the street looking at your shoes and saying "yes massa" just to avoid getting shot doesn't wash for me. I know that criminals of any hue have to face the consequences of their actions but those are very different according to your race and class.
Yes you can be subservient and avoid trouble but is that any way to live?
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Ebola threatens Zimbabwe IC
by Slidin Fast inhttp://www.bulawayo24.com/index-id-news-sc-national-byo-52232.html.
also.
http://www.voanews.com/content/ebola-fears-cloud-jehova-witness-meeting-in-zimbabwe/2413748.html.
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Not on jw.org - comments regarding bad Jehovah's Witness employees
by jwfacts ini used to be very impressed with convention experiences regarding how worldly employers would hire jws because they were known as the most honest workers.
i was too indoctrinated to realise these were selective experiences, and there are plenty of experiences of jws being dishonest in the workforce.
i have received a couple recently by email.. i have cut quite a bit out of the following email i received so that the person and company cannot be indentified, but you will get the message.. .
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I could not agree more, I have employed dubs including elders and ms. I would say at least 60 per cent gave me problems. i hate using them for doing work a home, they always take advantage. The relationship is never on the right footing.
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READ THIS and you'll finally know . . .
by Terry inif you have never read this, please sit down, brew a cup o' tea and relax with your laptop.. you'll be at it for an hour.
it just gets better and better as you go along.. you could call this, "everything you always wanted to know about the character of c.t.
russell".. http://archive.org/stream/somefactsandmorefactsaboutcharlestazerussell/1913_some_facts_more_facts_about_russell__djvu.txt.
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I used to see this sort of stuff as just the sort of mud that opposers would throw around. It had no weight or substance, no truth. It should not be given the dignity of a reply.
But.... Look at the following references. The WT gave it credence and tried to salve the wounds by giving a half assed response. By the weakness of the reply, by the failure of Russell to follow up this stain on his reputation the ORGANIZATION have elevated this tract to the status of TTATT. They have not even tried to defend the financial shenanigans, they made a half hearted technical defense of Russell’s moral short comings reminiscent of Clinton’s “ I did not have sex with that woman’. They edit the Canadian evidence to suit their position still leaving the fact dangling that Russell was a uneducated layman claiming to be a pastor.
The jury’s verdict: Guilty m’lud, on all counts.
*** yb79 pp. 93-94 Canada ***
CLERICS LASH OUT!
One of the earliest congregations of Jehovah’s people to be established in Canada was the one at Hamilton, Ontario. That strong, very active congregation naturally had the disapproval of the clergy. Not having any Biblical defense against the forceful thrusts of the truth, the clerics resorted to personal invective. They lashed out in a seemingly desperate attempt to destroy one man—C. T. Russell.
A clergyman who used this approach at Hamilton was a bombastic Baptist preacher named J. J. Ross. In 1912, he wrote a scurrilous pamphlet in which he made many false accusations against Russell. Acting on the advice of his legal counselor, J. F. Rutherford, Brother Russell laid a criminal charge of defamatory libel against Ross. As the complainant, Russell attended the trial to give evidence, and he submitted to a long cross-examination of roughly five hours. After the trial, his Baptist opponent falsely charged that Russell had committed perjury when asked about his knowledge of Greek. This “perjury” charge was published in Ross’ second pamphlet attacking Russell. In it the cleric misquoted what had been said in court, giving the cross-examiner’s question and Russell’s reply as follows:
Q. “Do you know the Greek?”
A. “Oh, yes.”
By omitting the word “alphabet” from this question, Ross sought to establish an exact contradiction with a later question and answer:
Q. “Are you familiar with the Greek language?”
A. “No.”
What really happened is clear from the official record (Police Court of the City of Hamilton, Ontario, March 17, 1913). It shows that C. T. Russell did not commit perjury. The cross-examination (by George Lynch-Staunton, K. C.) went as follows, according to the book Jehovah’s Witnesses in Canada, by M. James Penton:
“Question: ‘You don’t profess, then, to be schooled in the Latin language?’
Answer: ‘No, Sir.’
Question: ‘Or in Greek?’
Answer: ‘No, Sir.’”
After this, Russell was asked if he knew individual Greek letters, and he said that he “might make a mistake of some of them.” According to the book just cited, shortly thereafter “Lynch-Staunton asked Russell the question: ‘Are you familiar with the Greek language?’ Russell’s reply was an emphatic ‘No.’”
So, there was no question about matters. C. T. Russell had not committed perjury as Ross falsely charged after the trial. The case itself later went before a grand jury, which declined to return a bill of indictment. So, the case never went on for trial before the Supreme Court of Ontario. Under legal practice in Ontario, only the crown attorney is allowed to speak before the grand jury. We do not know how the case was presented to it or what caused that body to reject it. No decision ever was rendered on the merits of the case. In his subsequent writings, Ross treated this inconclusive result as though he had won a great victory. He and others apparently chose to forget that Russell was not the man on trial.
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READ THIS and you'll finally know . . .
by Terry inif you have never read this, please sit down, brew a cup o' tea and relax with your laptop.. you'll be at it for an hour.
it just gets better and better as you go along.. you could call this, "everything you always wanted to know about the character of c.t.
russell".. http://archive.org/stream/somefactsandmorefactsaboutcharlestazerussell/1913_some_facts_more_facts_about_russell__djvu.txt.
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Slidin Fast
Read it. Now I begin to understand why the impenitrable web of finance for the holding of the WT particularly in the US have their foundation. Even now the vast wealth of the Organization (a sinster word that| is controlled by the GB just as it was controlled by Russell. The man was morally incontinent.
Whoever tracked that down and put it on-line deserves a medal.
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GOVERNING BODY PATTERNS OF DECEPTION
by Terry inpattern of excuses.
" zion's watch tower 1894 jul 15 p.226.
(compare isaiah 8:11-13.
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Slidin Fast
Excellent bit of research and presentation. The words are not muddied by interpretation but are just presented as printed. There can be no argument or excuse.
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Landover international convention baptisium stats...
by Justnowout infor those that care about such things..... .
attendance right around 60k everyday.
.6 percent.
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Lets be accurate, 449 baptised, 60,000 present, 0.748%. I am sm not sure who should be rejoicing but I don't think it should be the GB. The JW.ORG strategy needs rethinking.
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Pixar the production company is jealous of Caleb and Sophia video's
by life is to short inso said the co last night.. apparently a jw was on a flight and just happend to sit next to some big wig from pixar and when the man from pixar heard that he was a jw the pixar man just gushed over what great work that the watchtower has done in producing the caleb video's.
he siad he only wished pixar could do such great work.
the co said we are able to do it because we have free labor and jehovah behind us.. my husband stayed home from the meeting but wanted to tie in by phone and that is what the co said in his talk.. the co also talked about all the changes that have happened in the last ten years and how if some of the friends did not like it they needed and to quote him "they just needed to get over it" these changes are going to happned period.
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Slidin Fast
Another non-attributable quote. Not worth the breath it took to say it.
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The Memorial- Passing the emblems, a prime display of weirdness
by Darth Fader The Sequel innot sure if this bothered other people, but it absolutely drove me crazy!!!!.
ok, typical annual memorial.
the emblems are being passed around.
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Slidin Fast
Just a point. This CELEBRATION is the ONLY one that JWs are allowed to have during the year. Fun heh!